I will put up this birthday greetings early to give members time to reply rather put better late than never,
Many happy returns of the day for the 28th to Mike DeCarteret have a good day and all the best for the future.
Johnie68
I will put up this birthday greetings early to give members time to reply rather put better late than never,
Many happy returns of the day for the 28th to Mike DeCarteret have a good day and all the best for the future.
Johnie68
Many happy returns of the day to Tim Connell today the 25th, hoping that you had a good one, Best wishes also for the future.
Johnie68
John welcome to the ROYALS BB hope you find your way around ok.John was in the ROYALS from1962--1968 spent time in Tidwoth and Cyprus finished his time in Detmold. i think John was in A Sqn for most of his time..maybe when he gets the hang of the BB he can tell us all about his service days
regards derek
No longer do I see my friends who marched by my side,
No longer can I hear the sound of voices raised with pride.
As we marched off down the road to WHATEVER lay in store,
Had I a choice of comrades I could not ask for more.
We set off then,that autumn day,not knowing what lay ahead.
Just young men who had NO choice,we went with flags unfurled,so that our kin could again rejoice in peace throughout the world.
I came back,I don`t know how,to see my folks again,but I pray to God my children,you will never experience the same.
By..Robert Smith ..of Leeds.
Waterloo Medal-1815 (Lieut. George Gunning, 1stor Royal Dragoons.), original steel clip and ring suspension, light
edge bruise and some contact marks, otherwise good very fine Value Estimate £6,000-8,000
Lieutenant George Gunning; Ensign 17 th Foot 1804;Commanded Grenadier Company, 9th Foot at Vimiera; transferredLieutenant 1 st Dragoons, 1809; served in Captain Methuen’s 7th Troop, during the Waterloo Campaign (wounded) and led his troopin the charge of the Union Brigade; he was also a claimant for killing the Officer in charge of the colour party bearing the EagleOf the 105th Regiment of Line, which was subsequently captured.
The Taking of the Eagle of French 105 th Ligne There is a certain amount of controversy surrounding the captureof the 105th’ Eagle, with two claimants from the same regiment contesting the honour, the first being Captain A. K. Clark 1 stDragoons (later Lieutenant General), and the other being Corporal F. Stiles (later Ensign 6 th West India Regiment).
At Waterloo, shortly before 2 p.m., the 105th as part of d’Erlon’s corps, advanced to attack Picton’s division. The 1 st DragoonsCharged, and pushed back the French column thus exposing the Eagle. It is at this point that Clark laid his claim that it was he whoSpotted the Eagle being rushed back towards safety, and that it was he who charged forward to kill the officer guarding the Eagle.He stipulated that as the standard fell to the ground he ordered Corporal Stiles to secure it and carry it back to the rear.
Corporal Stiles, however, contended that he captured the Eagle,after being given an order to attack it by his troop commander
Lieutenant Gunning.Colonel Clifton (the commanding officer of the 1st Dragoons at the start of the battle), ordered an investigation into the affair. ThisEnquiry continued into 1816 when Clifton sent for Stiles, informing him that he needed witnesses to substantiate his claim. As a resultof this Stiles wrote to his former troop commander Lieutenant Gunning,
“Sir,This day Colonel Clifton sent for me about the taking the Eagle and Colours. He asked me if I had any person that see me take theEagle, I told him that you see me, I believe, as the officer of the French was making away with it. I belonged to your troop at thatTime, and you gave me orders to charge him, which I did, and took it from him. When I stated it to him this day, he wants to know theParticulars about it, and me to rite to you for you to state to him how it was. I would thank you to rite to the Colonel as you was theNearest officer to me that day. Sir, by so doing, you will much oblige. Stiles was twice promoted as a result of his claim, whereas Clark
did not receive anything directly for his claimed actions, this would suggest that the powers that be recognised Stiles’ claim, whichwas further supported by Gunning himself when he wrote to Major General Sir H. Torens (22.2.1816),
“Sir,It being believed that some military honour may be conferred in consequence of the Eagles taken at the ever-memorable Battle ofWaterloo, induces me to state, for the consideration of his Royal Highness the Commander-in-Chief, that it was by my orders thatSergeant Stiles secured the Eagle of the 105th Regiment of French Infantry. I am enabled to prove this fact by Sergeant Stiles’ letter toMe of the 31st ult. a copy of which I have the honour to enclose. I should have made this statement before, but my extreme ill stateof health, in consequence of my wounds received at the Battle of Waterloo, has caused me to be absent from my regiment, and I didNot consider it consistent to write to a Sergeant for the particulars which he has now unsolicited sent to me. I have heard that otherclaims are about to be made relative to the Eagle taken by Sergeant Stiles; his letter proves most clearly it was by my orders heDid secure the Eagle, and as no other officer was near me at the time, I gave the order. I hope his Royal Highness, theCommander-in-Chief, will consider that it was owing to my orders the Eagle was captured from the enemy; as had I acted differentlyto what I did at that critical moment, I think the Eagle would not have been taken from the enemy, which, by a personal interview, IThink I could explain fully to the satisfaction of his Royal Highness.”
This remained unacceptable to Clark, who was twice wounded at Waterloo, and during the next 23 years he made a further 10Official complaints. Gunning added another note of controversy by later claiming in “Documents of the Gunning Family” (privatelyPublished in 1834), that it was he who killed the French officer in charge of the Colours. Whatever conclusions can be drawn fromThis action, it is likely that in the heat of the battle several individuals may have contributed to the capturing of the Eagle.
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